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Pakistan Movement and Building Pakistan – Organized by MUSLIM Institute

 

 

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Seminar on
Pakistan Movement and Building Pakistan
Organized by
MUSLIM Institute

MUSLIM Institute and Iqbal International Institute for Research and Dialogue Islamic University organized a seminar titled “Pakistan movement and building Pakistan” at Islamic International University, Islamabad. Eminent scholars and political leaders participated in the seminar and expressed their views on the subject. The chief guest of the seminar was Lt. General (R) Senator Abdul Qayyum. The other worthy speakers were Dr. Masoom Yaseen Zai Rector Islamic International University, Former chairman of the Senate Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Akram Zaki, Former Finance Minister, Umer Ayub, Director IRD Dr. Talib Hussain Sial, Professor of History Department Qaid-e-Azam University Dr. Farooq Ahmed Dar, Chairman MUSLIM Institute, Sahibzada Sultan Ahmed Ali and Research associate MUSLIM Institute, S.H. Qadri. Foreign delegates, professors and students of universities, scholars and researchers from different institutions, analysts and media persons actively participated in the seminar. The national anthem was played at the start of the session.

Experts expressing their views observed as under:

The main objective of Pakistan movement was to establish an Islamic welfare society in an independent state, where social justice could prevail and citizens can avail basic needs of life. It is evident from the address of thinker of Pakistan Allama Iqbal in his lecture at Aligarh that “It is not the unity of language or of country or the identity of economic interests that constitutes the basic principles of our nationality. It is because we all believe in a certain view of the Universe, and participate in the same historical traditions that we are members of the society founded by the Prophet of Islam.” In the same way Qauid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah in 1948 explained the nationalism and model of Government in Pakistan as “Pakistan constitution should incorporate the essential principles of Islam, which are as good and relevant in our day as they were Thirteen hundred years ago”. Qauid e Azam wants to lay the foundation of a modern welfare state where masses have complete religious independence and rights of minorities could also be protected.

‘Two Nation Theory’ is the bedrock of Pakistan movement.

‘Two Nation Theory’ is the bedrock of Pakistan movement. Only those movements can succeed which are backed by ground realities. Success of Pakistan movement also relies on the fact that it was backed by a great reality of ‘Two Nation Theory’. Qauid e Azam said that we are among those nations which have fallen and are through very hard times. After the devastation of eighteenth and nineteenth century Muslims were collapsed. From the fall of Mughal Empire till now Muslim of Sub continent were never faced by such a responsibility as by enduring the responsibility of Pakistan. Muslim ruled over Subcontinent for 800 hundred years and British snatched it from Muslims and now under their rule so our demand is from British not from the Hindus. If whole of the sub-continent might have come under the Hindus it might have wiped off the Muslim civilization and their culture. Allama Iqbal pointed out that “I am observing that ideology of Nationhood on the basis of creed and country is penetrating Muslim world and I am afraid that Muslim may undervalue their unique conception of universality in humanity and overwhelmed by the regional nationhood, therefore being a Muslim and humanity loving I consider it my duty to make them recall their lesson and their role for progress of humanity”.

Allama Iqbal’s thinking

Although Allama Iqbal died several years before the creation of Pakistan but his idea of Pakistan produced profound impact on Quaid e Azam and Muslim leadership of sub-continent. Quaid e Azam himself acknowledged that Allama Iqbal thinking had great effect on him as he says in the preface of Allama Iqbals letters, “His views were substantially in consonance with my own and had finally led me to the same conclusions as a result of careful examination and study of the constitutional problems facing India and found expression in due course in the united will of Muslim India as adumbrated in the Lahore Resolution of the All-India Muslim League popularly known as the “Pakistan Resolution” passed on 23rd March, 1940”.

“Pakistan Resolution” passed on 23rd March, 1940”.

Speakers highlighted the importance of 392 days of Quaid e Azam’s life after the creation of Pakistan, for applying his principles and disciplinary approach and make continuous efforts according to his famous slogan of ‘Work, Work and only Work’. We have to make sure the supremacy of law and formulate the effective internal and foreign policy to address the contemporary issues and challenges so that we can raise the flag of Pakistan as a peaceful and progressive country in the eyes of all nations. Though we have achieved independence from British and Hindu domination, yet we have to get rid of corrupt and incompetent officials and bureaucratic system to realize the dream of true democracy. Speakers raised some critical question; do we really have built our country as dreamed of? Have we prepared our youth for progress of Pakistan? Have we been successful in creating the same passion at the time of Independence? We have to spread education and culture of research and innovation while awakening the spirit of Pakistan Movement because we have 53 million young persons. We have to build and improve national solidarity, sectarian cohesion, patience, peace and love so that Islam can enter into our hearts and homes; it would in turn bring social justice in our society and the rights of all individuals would be protected. This would bring progress and prosperity in our country. For building Pakistan we need same commitment and same dedication as displayed for the Pakistan movement.

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PAKISTAN’S HERO :PIFFERS: CHARGE OF THE BULLS 35 FF AND SHAHADAT OF COL AKRAM RAJA

PIFFERS: CHARGE OF THE BULLS 35 FF AND SHAHADAT OF COL AKRAM RAJA – 17 DECEMBER 1971

 

 

CHARGE OF THE BULLS 35 FF AND SHAHADAT OF COL AKRAM RAJA- 17 DECEMBER 1971
 
       Dear Editor  
 
       Pakistan Army Surrendered on 16 Dec 1971 at Dacca. But the war in West Pakistan continued for another Day, Some of the Senior Officers in West Pakistan for face saving and to earn some personal gain, committed the blunder of launching units in counter attacks ill prepared in various sectors. Two glaring Examples are 8 Armed Brigade Counter Attack in BARA PIND and 35 FF Attack in the same sector. In both the cases Unit Commanders/ junior commanders were sacrificed by the incompetent Brigade/ Division and Corps Commander in Sialkot Sectors.
 
           An excellent Book has been written by Col Imtiaz Ul Haque about this battle, published by Asim welfare Society, Model Town Lahore. Col Imtiaz participated in

the attack as company commander and was wounded.  The officer has given a very detailed account of the Battle. The unit sacrificed their lives due to failure in Command and staff Planning at all levels. This is evident from the unit’s move from Chaman/ Baluchistan on 29 September 1971 to the desert in Sind. Thereafter on 4 December 1971 to Fort Abbas, then to Sialkot Sector under 1 Corps on 14 December,  on the evening of 16 December to Pindi Purbian  for counter attack on the morning of 17 Dec 1971 in Jarpal area in 1 Corps. The unit kept Shuttling between three different brigade areas from 14 December to 17 December, with no clear orders. The Commanding Officer was denied any Reconnaissanc of the objective, in Day light Hours.  Poor Staff Planning at the GHQ and Command failure at Corps/Division and Brigade level. It also raises a important question; Was this Attack really needed after Surrender at DACCA on 16 December and ceasefire between INDIA AND PAKISTAN in the Afternoon of 17 Dec 1971? Perhaps all our Generals should read and keep by their bed side “Psychology of Military Incompetence, by Norman Dixon”

 
      Col Akram Raja the Commanding officer embraced Shahdat along with  three officers, a JCO and 56 NCOs and JAWANS. The Bengali officers of the unit fought Gallantly along side their West Pakistani brethren, Lt Shahid Ullah from East Pakistan Embraced Shahdat. 
 
          The Humood Rahman Commission had recommended action against all the COMMANDERS from Corps Commander down to Brigade level but no action was taken against any one.
 
     I wish this Book had been published by the author sometime in late seventies or at least when the Author had finalized the draft and got the approval of GHQ for its publication in 1987.
 
Regards
 
Lt Col Muhammad Shahbaz Thuthaal (Retd)
17 Punjab Regt.
 
DHA- EME sector, Multan road, LAHORE.
 
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Pakistani Dialogue Round Table on Current Affairs by Khaled Nizami

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Col Naeem / Javed Chaudhry Saheb,

The kind of effective force you are talking about can be provided jointly by the Higher Judiciary and the Armed Forces.

As regards educating people and creating awareness is a long drawn process. Immediate remedial action is required. This action should not cause any international uproar resulting in imposition of sanctions.

The need of the hour is get rid of the self-serving corrupt politicians and form a National Unity government of capable and honest technocrats for a period of 2 years. This interim government should have full support of the higher judiciary and the Armed forces.

During the 2-yr period, the technocrat govt should clean up the system and bring in effective reforms in all areas of governance. There should be Summary court trials for corruption as well in order to ensure a total cleanup of the existing system..

I fully agree with you that Army take-over is no solution. We should work on a long-term solution.

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On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Javed Chaudry <> wrote:

Sir, your message is no different from what most of us in this group seem to be either advancing or supporting. The only question here is what can be done practically? 

What we can all do practically is to make people aware of what is the problem, what are the issues and draw a line between the right and the wrong things comparing things with the rest of the world and drawing from history.

A different kind of force and thrust is required to actually get rid of the system and those who sustain it for self-serving reasons. This is the force that we, in this group do not have, hence the things remain in status quo.

 

Javed Chaudry

 

Whichever way you look at it; this corrupt and exploitative (feudal) system masquerading as democracy shall have to be dismantled; if we want to survive as a state society. 

But an overwhelming majority of our compatriots a

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e either busy to eke out a living or are blissfully ignorant of the chaos seeps in; to undo us for good. 

One thing which is eminently doable is, to at least educate the people out of there obliviousness and apathy; and create

​awareness.

Could we agree on this approach; and join hands to do something practical?

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Why not start from the right foot? Why not allow only the highly educated and experienced professionals to enter the parliament? Pakistan has plenty of such people available. Why do we not think out of the box and introduce a method to exclude the likes of that garbage that makes the majority of so called Electables. A new system can only emerge from a new thinking – not by repairing the already tested and quite untrue procedures which have been around for 67 years.

Pakistan has plenty of good people of its own, what it does not have a good procedure, hence the present politicians will get the jackpot each time you to the polls.

 

Javed Chaudry

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What is needed is for the elected MNAs, Senators and MPAs to be put thru a specially designed crash adult literacy program, the program should based on Swiss Finishing Schools model for these bozos to be also introduced to social graces, conduct and deportment, dress sense, table manners and all the rest.   
Subject: Re: Issues

 

There were times when there was no pay for these public reps. Only travel expenses to attend sessions. They were not allowed any mark of distinction on their cars. No extra privilege. Bhutto made them VIPs. Thereafter, there has been no stopping.

Masud

 

 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Javed Chaudry <> wrote:

By all means Sir. And another thing, perhaps a minor point, the food made available to the parliamentarians in the parliament cafeteria is subsidized while there are lots of poor and hungry people around. If anything, food should be subsidized for the poor people not the rich and the most affluent and useless category of the society.

For the sake of a mental exercise, suppose if the all the Pakistani politicians are locked out of the parliament and various provincial assemblies for a year, what would be the impact on the economy of Pakistan? The state of Pakistan will save millions of rupees a day, not just out of their salaries and perks but also due to the fact that they no longer have access to the national coffer. Like the tentacles of a giant octopus, their men are sitting in all nooks and crannies of every departments eating away Pakistan in more ways that you can count.

The dynastic politicians and the progress of Pakistan are two entities which negate each other and cannot survive together.

 

Javed Chaudry

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From: Syed Masud ul Hassan [mailto:]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:53 AM
To: JAVED CHAUDRY

Subject: Re: Issues

 

Chaudhry sahab, I would like to add following conditions also:

  1. Candidate must be registered as voter in that constituency. Presently they get elected from far off places and never visit that area after elections. If a person is not a voter of that area, how can he claim to represent those people.
  2. Winner must get absolute majority of votes i.e. more than 50 %. Presently a person winning with a simple majority of 30 % vote also claims to be representing the constituency.
  3. Direct elections of senators.
  4. Direct elections for reserved seats like women and minorities by concerned voters.
  5. System of Re-call as in USA.
  6. Dictatorial powers of party heads under 18th Amendment should be withdrawn.
  7. Electronic system of voting be introduced. The system demonstrated to Election Commission before the last elections, allows voting from anywhere that is connected with internet.
  8. There should be strict control on limit of expenses by candidates.

Masud

 

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:25 AM, JAVED CHAUDRY <> wrote:

Masud Hassan Sahib, my response was to address Wasti Sahib’s suggestions to allow 300 years for democracy to grow. You are right and I am also fully aware that it can be and has been done almost overnight. I fully agree with that, but not without changing the acceptance criteria for the candidates, hence the changing of the constitution. At a minimum, three requirements must be changed: one is the academic qualification, minimum a Bachelor’s degree (or equivalent, such as military academy education), higher education to be preferred; second, a minimum of 15 years working experience in a responsible position; and the third, Clean bill of financial track record. With these requirements in place, 95% of the present day parliamentarians will be out. When talking about working experience in responsible position, 15 years of being a parliament member as the friend or family member of a dynastic political outfit does not count an acceptable experience – not in my books. I am looking for scientists, engineers, economists, lawyers, accountants, professors, doctors, retired judges, retired military officers etc. to be the members of the parliament. The semiliterate corrupt garbage that we have today cannot build the nation or its democracy.

Javed Chaudry

 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 1:57 PM, Syed Masud ul Hassan <> wrote:

 

Chaudhry sahab, why go so far in history. Let us not talk about India, what about Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Vietnam. Germany and Japan were also new to democracy but did not waste a day after peace treaty to get on to democracy. Unless we get rid of the real enemy of democracy, it will remain zameen jumbad na ….

Masud

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, JAVED CHAUDRY <> wrote:

Our good friend Wasti Sahib states:

Give Pakistani democracy the same time as was ‘Allowed’ to other decent democracies. Why discriminate and put hurdles before it ?

SHW

 

I have no reservations about the honesty and integrity of Wasti Sahib in demanding for patience and time that was allowed for other democracies around the world. But I will have to reject his proposal as it is based on assumptions and postulations which applied to other countries centuries ago but do not apply to Pakistan in view of the socio-polity needs and limitations in the 21stcentury. The process of development of democracy in Pakistan cannot be directly compared with the Europe of 16th century after they had experienced the renaissance in Europe during 14th to 17thcenturies. Pakistani society is still unaware of the meanings of renaissance even in the 21st century. Our methods and procedures must meet our own needs and limitations.

 

If we go by what Wasti Sahib is proposing, it will be akin to developing a motor car in Pakistan today, starting from the point where the original design stood in the late 19th century and then allow this technology to take 100 years to evolve to the current form and standards – In hundred years, we will still be 100 years behind others. Wasti Sahib’s proposal therefore, cannot be considered acceptable.

 

It took the Europeans several centuries to develop the democracy simply because they did not have a living example to copy from. The democracy, although proposed originally by the Greeks before Christianity, but it was still an abstract thought in Europe until a couple of centuries ago.

 

Today, Pakistan does not enjoy the political, social and economic freedoms as did the Western Europe during the last three centuries while they were developing their democratic systems. Most of the Western European countries were at par with each other militarily and economically. They had minimal interference in their internal affairs from other countries. They were slowly but steadily improving their economies and level of general education of the public. The growth of population was not as severe as it has been in Pakistan during the last six decades. The upper crust in those countries did have luxurious life but did not steel from the nation’s coffer and deposit it in the Swiss banks. Many of them had additional economic help from the New World as well as their colonies. Also, they were ahead of most other countries of the world in science and technology. In Pakistan, the life is hugely dependent on its friends and neighbours and their own geopolitical, socio-economic and religious interests. The Western Europe, while developing their democracies, did not have to fight CIA, RAW and Saudi Money trying to rearrange social life through themadressas, TTP and dozens of terror groups.

 

Pakistan therefore, cannot afford the luxury of waiting for three centuries to develop its democracy. We know what the target should be, we also know what kind of people are required to work in the parliament – All we need to do is to re-write the constitution that would serve Pakistan as opposed to the one in use today that serves a few dynastic families and their friends only. In order to develop democracy in Pakistan, the very first step will have to be to remove all the thugs who have a stranglehold on Pakistan’s politics and economy.

 

Javed Chaudry

 

 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 12:47 PM, Imtiaz Akhter <i> wrote:

 

All of us know that the country is suffering from the defective landlord mulla democracy. Non of us knows how to bring a quick change to a proper workable democratic system, except wait for the time till the people of the country become sensible enough to elect sincere and able representatives.

 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 10:08 PM, S.Khalid Husain <> wrote:

 

shams abbas sahib they are slow learners they need more chances!!!!!!  

 

From: shams abbas [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 5:39 PM
To:
Subject: RE: Issues

 

The PPP has been given four chances.
The PML N three.

In each of these tenures,the performance was worse than the previous one.
Why?Because as correctly pointed out ,’the vision for building solid foundations and Institutions on which Democracy is supposed to deliver does not exist.’

On the contrary,we have seen time and again,that complaints of corruption,rigging in elections and massive, governance blunders, surpass previous records.

We are not arguing against democracy.
We are not pleading for Milirary Rule.
We are not stressing dictatorial rule.

All that is needed is good CORRUPTION FREE GOVERNANCE by competent,highly educated and skilled people who are experts in their fields.Those who have the competence to correct and guide the country on a path from where, there is no turning back.Only going forward,
to improvement, betterment and welfare of the larger number of people.

The argument ,give democracy a chance, therefore is patently an excuse.A cover up for support of corrupt governing Mafias which have taken us down the path, in all facets of development.
Be that of justice,ethics,morality,economy,rule of law,protection of life and property or economy.

If we are in a reverse gear and visibly so,should we just wait,be onlookers?
Or  attempt to manage and enforce e change.
In my view we must reject the status quo.We must demand that these failed leaders and parties be held accountable for their monumental mistakes and corruption.I need not go into examples and details of their record of mischief based leadership.

Sixty seven years are more than enough.No more time to be lost.We must demand that the constitution should be implemented in totality which includes articles 62 and 63,indeed all articles which encompass the rights of individuals for being better governed,ruled and given a ‘better present and future.’
Why not?This is our country.

Shams Z Abbas

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:01:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Issues

It has been seen in Pakistan, that as you give more time to the so-called democracy loving politicians, the more loot and plunder they carry out.

 

Just review their recent performance during the past 7 years.

 

After 5-year loot and plunder by Zardari & his PPP coterie, look at the current state of affairs. Nawaz Sharif and his gang have no time to improve governance, they are busy in signing lucrative contracts thru their external agent Saif-ur-Rehman. Just look at the LNG contract, Reko Diq, and other privatization ventures.

 

If we want to act stupid and close our eyes to the reality on ground, then by the time we wake up,  nothing will be left of Pakistan.

 

We should all understand that these corrupt politicians are using the slogan of democracy not for the betterment of the people but as a shield for their corruption.

 

KHALED NIZAMI

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Haroon Wasti  wrote:

Give Pakistani democracy the same time as was ‘Allowed’ to other decent democracies. Why discriminate and put hurdles before it ?

SHW

 

On Friday, January 23, 2015 5:12 AM, Mahfooz Rahman wrote:

 

Dear sirs and madams

I agree with the views of Javed Chaudary saheb 

 

Pakistan is an ocean of ignorance , poverty , sickness , unemployment and helplessness . In its midst , there is an island of affluence (through fair means or foul , mostly foul  ) knowledge and apathy . The affluent ones’ bearing is unbearable and revolting   . The impression to the world is one of pity none the less disgusting.  

No matter how many times one shuffles the pack of cards , the same tired ,rotten  , crude and foul mouthed people come out as parliamentarians . This is our luck . However in other matters  These people are cunning and rotten to the core . However , they to borrow the words from P.G Woodhouse they are made of concrete from the shoulders upwards unless it is tempered with their self aggrandisements .

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Syed Masud ul Hassan  wrote:

Aziz Beg was editor/owner of a weekly magazine, STAR. That was banned during Ayub’s times. He wrote a book on Pakistan.That was borrowed by some friend but was never returned. The book was also proscribed.

Masud

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:50 PM, JAVED CHAUDRY  wrote:

Masud Hasaan Sahib,

I fully concur with your second and third paragraphs as well. The real problem is that when we say “we” elected them – who are those who elect them? The 70% of the illiterate masses (assuming there is no rigging)? We are obliged to follow and obey the rulers, only when they are placed in the office legally and fairly. That is not the case in Pakistan, hence its people are under no obligation to accept and obey such rulers.

Yes, I agree, our people should rise, but they don’t and they won’t. They have been part of such system for centuries and they are unable to think for themselves. I do not know who Mr. Aziz Beg is/was, but perhaps he was right in saying what you have quoted.

The bottom line is that I do not believe the thugs in power are in any mood to quit. They will have another sham election and same or similar thugs will be in power once again and the whole cycle of corruption will repeat itself.

The government of the people, by the people, for the people will not materialise in Pakistan unless the election system is designed to be independent of money, the current dynastic party system and unless the police and the judiciary are depoliticised. Short of that, the corrupt system will prevail until a coup takes place or the country disintegrates. No matter how many cycles of such sham elections the country goes through, no positive change will come and a steady deterioration will be a constant feature of the corrupt system.

The people all over the world are getting a short term respite from the expensive petrol, but in Pakistan they are paying twice the usual price, only if they can buy some after a long wait in the line at the petrol station. Who is responsible for this? The (rigged election) elected government – Who else?

Javed Chaudry

 

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:42 AM, Syed Masud ul Hassan <> wrote:

 

Chaudhry sahab, I think your comments are based on first para only. Please comment on the two other paras, reproduced below.

Masud

Problem is that despite the Constitution, our people are denied those rights by the rulers whom we keep electing repeatedly. We accept whatever is doled out. ‘HAKIM-E-WAQAT KI ITA’AT LAZIM HAI’

Instead of behaving like the subjects of ;Ek tha Badshah’ our people have to rise and snatch the rights given by God and laid down in the Constitution. Time has come to follow Faiz’s “LAZIM HAI ……” The needed spark is not visible as yet. If I still remeber the words of Mr Aziz Beg, “People were perspiring, leaders were conspiring, nation was expiring and alas, none was inspiring”

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:05 PM, JAVED CHAUDRY <> wrote:

Masud Sahib, the constitution in Pakistan does not mean a thing to the ordinary public. It serves only the ruling elite. If the constitution was in use the way it is meant to be then people like Sharifs and Zardaris could not have been considered qualified to run for the highest offices. Having a constitution in Pakistan offers no benefit to the people. The ruling elite is simply above it with judiciary and all other governmental instruments equally corrupt, happen to be in their back pocket.

Javed Chaudry

 

 

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:15 AM, Syed Masud ul Hassan <> wrote:

 

“Change does not happen it has to be made to happen”,

Khalid sahab, I absolutely agree with your above comment. You have put Saudi Arabia and Pakistan together in one category. There I disagree a bit because our Constitution grants all the rights whereas Saudi, if they have one, does not allow.

Problem is that despite the Constitution, our people are denied those rights by the rulers whom we keep electing repeatedly. We accept whatever is doled out. ‘HAKIM-E-WAQAT KI ITA’AT LAZIM HAI’

Instead of behaving like the subjects of ;Ek tha Badshah’ our people have to rise and snatch the rights given by God and laid down in the Constitution. Time has come to follow Faiz’s “LAZIM HAI ……” The needed spark is not visible as yet. If I still remeber the words of Mr Aziz Beg, “People were perspiring, leaders were conspiring, nation was expiring and alas, none was inspiring”

Masud

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:26 PM, S.Khalid Husain <> wrote:

God given rights have to be implemented, as they are in most countries except Muslim countries, and most blatantly not implemented, but denied, in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, one a ‘Fountainhead’ of Islam and the other ‘Citadel’ of Islam, two of most hypocritical countries.

Change does not happen it has to be made to happen, the poor remain poor in Pakistan, the illiterate remain illiterate in Pakistan,  minorities remain victimized in Pakistan, corruption remains a fixture, bad governance persists, the only change is much increased bigotry and hatred engendered by the mullas.           

 

From: Syed Masud ul Hassan [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:49 AM
To: S.Khalid Husain

Subject: Re: Issues

 

Despite efforts by the ‘great democrat’, blacks got right to vote only a century after end of the Civil War. It took another half a century  to elect a half black president. Credit for this cannot be given to what happened more that a century ago. Change was to come with passage of time. Even Kennedy was the first Catholic to become president. Many countries have had very effective women prime ministers and presidents. USA is only now likely to elect a women president.

USA was formed by independent states joining together. When some of the states did not approve of the policies of the central government, they decided to separate and form their own union.

Following were the 5 basic principles of union. Ending of slavery was not included. That was included only in the agenda of Lincoln. Break up took place before he became president. After becoming president, he started the 4 years war to impose his program. I am not going in to merit or demerits of that program but just about principles.

 

1. Rights come from God, not government

2. All political power emanates from the people

3. Limited representative republic

4. Written Constitution

5. Private Property Rights

Despite the first principle, our liberals have no objection but hell is being raised against our Objectives Resolution for following the principles from God.

Masud

 

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:44 AM, S.Khalid Husain <> wrote:

In the country of the man who said above, a descendent of slaves, a man of different color, who were cruelly discriminated against and inhumanly treated, has been elected by the people of that country to be their President. The man who used the ‘danda’ to unite the country, to end slavery and injustice in that country, must be resting easy in his grave.

Wonder how those who used the ‘danda’ in our country are resting wherever they are.  

 

From: Syed Masud ul Hassan [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:18 AM
To: Khalil Sufi

Subject: Re: Issues

 

Democracy – “Government of the the people,by the people for the people”

The man who said the above, used history’s biggest ‘danda’ to unify his own nation.

Masud

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Khalil Sufi <> wrote:

Mahfooz -It is not the personalities who should matter. Democracy -maybe government of the the people,by the people for the people. Democracy may work for the people who are reasonably educated, intelligent ( we don’t need Phds.), and not a mob that can be led by the Pied Piper of Hamelin  Pakistan when it came into existence had laws and rules and, still has, to go by. Do we, including myself follow these. This can be seen on the roads, traffic, encroachment, garbage on roads, getting  a driving licence,a passport, utility facilities or any other work connected with any of the government departments. Karachi and Lahore were example of town planning. These cities are bursting and continue to be expanded.. Islamabad was planned by a world renowned  town planner Doxiadis, K, P, a Greek architect. Proper public transport does not exist. There is no railway station in the Capital of the Country. Islamabad is loosing its charm as”Islamabad the Beautiful.” It is becoming a commercial city Pakistan has privileged classes the civil service and the military services. Then there is a working class or the common citizens. They exist on day to day basis. Some of this forum  members may be living in foreign countries where there are minimum wages. In our part of the Country one can employ a domestic help under Rs.10,000/ pm 24/7 and no leave or any other benefits. They have no pension ( a worker gets a pension of Rs.3,500/ pm), no subsidized education or basic health facilities. The do not get plots at throw away prices. 

 

Has all this happened overnight ! We have all contributed to this mess.

 

Regards 

 

M, Khalil Sufi

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM, <> wrote:

Issues are lack of resources. Here everyone consumes six times more than his fair share of global resources. Pakistan’s GDP, $1,260, US GDP is $42,000.

Only six percent of farmers work on land, to produce enough food for Americans, and keep some in reserve, in case it is needed around the world.

 

 

Naseem Khan

 

 

Subject: Re: The Dispossessed Ones

My son , Saad , following the advice given to him by a driver at his firm , got up at 3 AM  to get his car filled in . But the nearest petrol pumps were closed . The poor chap again attempted at 7.30 AM . After a wait of one hour , he got it .Thank God . Last evening I phoned him at his offfice specifically to ensure that some petrol may be kept aside for emergencies especially our house is 35 km from Islamabad . Name anything water , gas , electricity and now petrol . Has the previous or the present managed anything ? Governance means delivery . Have they managed to deliver .  .

 No one in his right mind would wish for martial law . But if governments do not or cannot deliver pray what is the solution ?   

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Col Naeem  wrote:

A government foisted by a criminal NRO, rigged elections, corrupt judiciary and yellow media is not legitimate.

Since this government came through extra-constitutional measures (NRO and violation of Article 62 and 63 to name a few); it could/ should be ousted through extra-constitutional measures; for the viability and security of the state.

Extraordinary situations require extraordinary solutions.

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Haroon Wasti  wrote:

NO ONE BUT NO ONE has the right to usurp the power

of the 180 million people of Pakistan to dislodge their

elected Govt.,  Good or even Bad.

 

It is solely their inherent right and any one interfering in

that right has no place amongst them or in their hearts.

Only the 180 million can bring in any change.

 

We are aware of our history and know well that those

who tried this trick, not only MISUSED our respected

institution but also deceived the nation to fulfill their

own ugly selfish ambitions, leaving the nation worst off

then before , reeling unsteadily for decades later. 

 

No sane person should even dream of such options.

 

SHW

 

 

On Monday, January 19, 2015 8:11 PM, S.Khalid Husain  wrote:

 

Mercifully no mulla is on the list for the interim government or it will be from smoldering tandoor to blazing nightmare.

 

From: Col Naeem [mailto: 

 

Relevant names with alternate names were decided upon even before the dharnas in July 2014!

 

 

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Mahfooz Rahman < wrote:

I am not professional writer nor a political scientest . I write a hobby . However I am enclosing a video . Whether you like or not he speaks truth .http://www.zemtv.com/2015/01/18/goya-with-arsalan-khalid-exclusive-with-zaid-hamid-18th-january/

Regards

Mahfooz    

 

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Sadeed Malik <> wrote:

Mahfooz sahib, A very well written narration of recent events, with continued degradation in our country. Many of us have commented, some with solutions. I would like to hear from you what solutions you propose to correct the state of affairs with short and medium term measures; covering a period of about a decade.   Regards      Sadeed

On Jan 16, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Mahfooz Rahman <> wrote:

                                   THE DISPOSSESSED ONES

If  the Zardari years ( 2008-2013)  were bad as far as the governance was concerned , the current rule is worse . As a political commentator said aptly he governance in their dictionary means making more metro buses or motorways . In my article “ An Autumn of Bitter Harvest “ , I wrote that  I found out that it was immaturity  in various phases of ‘democracy ‘ so much so that the common people are beginning to hate  the word . Democracy in Pakistan is tantamount to looting the exchequer and exploiting  the marginalized people .

On the political  horizon a new star , General Raheel Sharif , has emerged shining brightly on the bleak afternoon sky . Ma Sha Allah He is everywhere at the gate of the Army  Public School ,Peshawar  when it reopened on January 12 shaking hands individually with the children and parents boosting up their morale  , on the front meeting soldiers ,meeting the US armed forces top brass , at the CentCom , John Kerry , the US Secretary of State both in Washington as well as Rawalpindi , or David Cameron , the British Prime Minister in London .

Two major events happened in succeeding months ie December 2014 and January 2015 . One event happened in the Army Public School , Peshawar when firing and grenades by the attackers  killed 150 persons including 134 children . Another event happened half a globe away in France when two gunmen killed a dozen in an attack on a magazine “ Charlie Hebdo “ . The responses from each were totally different . In the first case , apart from the army which arrived on the spot within minutes when the shooting began and cleared the school from all militants , the response from the Government left much to be desired . The Prime Minister convened an all parties conference the second or the third day instead of taking an urgent action .

Many writers and political commentators wrote comprehensive on the mind boggling event . I minuted that the Concise Oxford Dictionary has no word to describe this bestiality .  I also wrote a short story “ Mama I want to go to school . Papa I want to go to school “. As a grandfather I wanted  to share with the parents or grandparents  my anxiety whether their children would be safe at school regardless of their wishes .  

The French response  was phenomenal . Beside police action of killing the assailants , French both men and women demonstrated in the major cities . Not only that , the Government gathered forty heads of states and of governments to show the world’s solidarity with France .     

I do not trust the politicians . One man who stood out was Imran Khan . However he too failed at the crucial moment  for the reasons as mentioned below :-

1 . In Peshawar at the start of the all parties conference , the Prime Minister was caught by the eyes of the camera cutting jokes and he was smiling .        That picture went viral . There is no harm in cutting jokes . But the timing was odd . Twenty four hours , the nation had lost its cream . The parents and grandparents had lost their children/grandchildren . It showed the politicians’ apathy .

2 . Imran Khan cancelled the sit in to protest against the rigging in the previous year’s election . Whether he was right or wrong , it appeared to the onlookers that he was tired of the sit ins . One writer named him as Dharna Khan .

3 . His  marriage   showed  indifference to the great loss the nation suffered at the Army Public School , Peshawar . Again I felt that the timing was odd . I discussed the matter with my wife . I told her  Imran Khan’s marriage has made  a big dent in his popularity graph  . Of course I have no estimates. However I feel he has missed the boat . 

  1. He and his newly wedded wife went to the school the other day to boost the children’ morale at the head of a huge motorcade . People counted the number of cars as 32 rubbishing his claim against the VIP culture which dominates the elite . However at a press conference on his return from Peshawar , he told the media that henceforth there would be no protocol for him . This way he is different from other politicians of the country .
  2. They were met by angry parents outside the School . Among the charges he  had to face  was indifference for their loss because of his recent marriage .( Another charge was leveled against the Prime Minister and his family for   removing his grandchildren  from school) . Slogans of ‘ go Imran go ‘ were raised against him for the above reasons . The parents were troubled that their children were killed and the politicians were indifferent to their losses . However , according to a lawyer and a political commentator , Chaudry Fawad Hussain , said were Nawaz Sharif , the Prime Minister , to go to the Army Public School without police escort he would face a much hostile reception . To the parents , Imran Khan appeared no different from other politicians . He appeared to have feet of clay .

Be it as may it , the parents of the children of the Army Public School or the people of Pakistan living elsewhere ,  are fed up of the governance , the law and order . There are many places in various  towns and cities which have no water , no electricity , no gas . The latest addition  is the non-availability of petrol because a major oil distribution company has no money to pay for the imports   In Tharparker , a famine is raging and each day a couple of infants die . Except the army which is camped there and doing all that it can , the Sind Government is nonchalant .

Each day bring bad news for the dispossessed people either of fire in a wood factory , or a bad accident between two speeding buses killing or maiming people . One can go on and on but the list of grievances has appears to have no end .

Mahfooz ur Rahman

Islamabad

January 16, 2015     

Pakistan’s Armed Forces are considered as saviours because time and again they have proved to be so.

Whenever there is a crisis in the country, the Armed Forces are called in, whether it be earthquake, floods, terrorism or Pakistan’s integrity & failure as a state.

Pakistan’s Armed Forces is the only institution which is disciplined, trained and well-versed in strategy development.

Now what we are suggesting is that the Higher Judiciary should take the lead in correcting the state of affairs of the country with full support from the Pakistan Armed Forces. Take over by the Armed Forces is not suggested.

KHALED NIZAMI

: Mayraj Fahim <f>
Date: Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Issues related to Democracy in Pakistan – this corrupt & exploitative (feudal) system should be dismantled & Replaced by a National Unity Govt of Honest Technocrats
To: kanizami07 <>

Why is Army considered the savior? Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif were in army governments and received their formative development in army governments. What guarantee will not make same mistakes again?

From: kanizami07 <>
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 5:47 PM
Subject: Fwd: Issues related to Democracy in Pakistan – this corrupt & exploitative (feudal) system should be dismantled & Replaced by a National Unity Govt of Honest Technocrats

 

 

 third, Clean bill of financial track record. 

With these requirements in place, 95% of the present day parliamentarians will be out. When talking about working experience in responsible position, 15 years of being a parliament member as the friend or family member of a dynastic political outfit does not count an acceptable experience – not in my books. 

I am looking for scientists, engineers, economists, lawyers, accountants, professors, doctors, retired judges, retired military officers etc. to be the members of the parliament. The semi

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literate corrupt garbage that we have today cannot build the nation or its democracy.

Javed Chaudry

 

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, JAVED CHAUDRY <j> wrote:

 

Pakistan  cannot afford the luxury of waiting for three centuries to develop its democracy. We know what the target should be, we also know what kind of people are required to work in the parliament – All we need to do is to re-write the constitution that would serve Pakistan as opposed to the one in use today that serves a few dynastic families and their friends only. 

 

Javed Chaudry

 

 

 

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:05 PM, JAVED CHAUDRY <> wrote:

Masud Sahib, the constitution in Pakistan does not mean a thing to the ordinary public. It serves only the ruling elite. 

If the constitution was in use the way it is meant to be then people like Sharifs and Zardaris could not have been considered qualified to run for the highest offices. Having a constitution in Pakistan offers no benefit to the people. The ruling elite is simply above it with judiciary and all other governmental instruments equally corrupt, happen to be in their back pocket.

Javed Chaudry

 

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Col Naeem <> wrote:

A government foisted by a criminal NRO, rigged elections, corrupt judiciary and yellow media is not legitimate.

Since this government came through extra-constitutional measures (NRO and violation of Article 62 and 63 to name a few); it could/ should be ousted through extra-constitutional measures; for the viability and security of the state.

Extraordinary situations require extraordinary solutions.

 

 

 

 

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Brave Son of Pakistan: A National Hero:Group Captain Cecil Chaudhry (SJ, S Bt and President’s Award for Pride of Performance) : CICF thanks government for renaming a road to Cecil Chaudhry Road

CICF thanks government for renaming a road to Cecil Chaudhry Road

cecil roadLAHORE: The Cecil & Iris Chaudhry Foundation (CICF) applauds the initiative taken by the government of Pakistan to rename a portion of Lawrence Road Lahore to “Cecil Chaudhry Road”.

Group Captain Cecil Chaudhry (SJ, S Bt and President’s Award for Pride of Performance) was a national hero, a highly decorated war veteran, a legend of the Pakistan Air Force, an acclaimed human rights activist, and an inspiration for all Pakistanis. He was bestowed with numerous honours from gallantry awards to equally high peace time citations for his bravery and courage.

A grand and befitting ceremony was organized by the Pakistan Air Force in which Air Officer Commanding Central Air Command Air Vice Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan was the Chief Guest. The Chief Guest Air Vice Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan paid glowing tributes to all the aspects of Group Captain Cecil Chaudhry’s life by honouring him as an ace fighter pilot of the PAF, an accomplished educationist and an acclaimed human rights activist. He ended his tribute by stating “I leave you with one last thought; there is a Cecil Chaudhry in every Pakistani, so let us bring him out in our spirits, so that the nation may reap the harvest of his courage and goodness. ”

Michelle Chaudhry, President of The Cecil & Iris Chaudhry Foundation and eldest among Cecil Chaudhry’s four children said, “We appreciate this initiative taken by the Chief Minister Punjab for recognizing and honouring the services rendered by our father Group Captain Cecil Chaudhry. Lawrence Road holds great significance in the life of our father as this is the road where St Anthony’s High School is located and he not only received his schooling from this school but also served as Principal of this institute for fourteen years.”

A citation was read out recognizing the services of the Group Captain to the Air Force and the country at large besides the tribute documentary by Pakistan Air Force. A plaque was unveiled by the Chief Guest which was later fixed on to prominent portion of the road.  The CICF President also expressed her deep gratitude to the Pakistan Air Force for organizing the event.

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Shukriya Pakistan – 30 November Islamabad

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