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Hindu Infested Quora Portal:Cobra Venom Sampler: Indian Hindus Still Cannot Accept Existence of Pakistan

Notice: How the malicious topic is sneaked in by Quora.com
Topic: Do Pakistanis secretly regret the partition and are they willing to see Pakistan merge back into India?
Vikram H

As an indian who has many pakistani friends, here’s what I can tell you.

1. The ones that live closest to the border, seem to hate India the most. They say seperation was the best thing possible.  Some of these guys are very religious, and I barely get along with them. Examples my
Kashmiri( extreme), lahorians friends get uptight, when talking about India. I’m guessing since the pak army is at border, they will be obviously be more anti-indian and harbour pro partition views.

2. The karachi fellows seemed to be quite moderate. Praised india quite often about its progress, bollywood and economy. One guy felt the two countries where alike  and  personally told me partition shouldn’t have happened. He even came to the temple with me. Again he came from a liberal muslim family. Also, he has some relatives living in India.

3. The pashtun ones mainly from KP province don’t say much about partition. Past is the past for them, and they want to move on.

So there you have it!

Fahad Khan

Actually No, you have seen Bombs, dead bodies and Blasts, but still Pakistanis are proud of being Pakistani. Pakistan has it’s own importance in whole world, if there wouldnt be Pakistan in between then there are many things you wont be seeing. So, they don’t regret but they’re proud of that Partition. Pakistan Zindabad.

Syed Fawad Hussain

This question isn’t asked to me but i just want to add an opinion if you don’t mind. Brother in my whole life i haven’t met a single Pakistani who has regrets upon this issue of partition. Maybe somewhere the people can be there but i lived in three provinces of Pakistan out of four and i haven’t met a single person who said that we regret on this that we have got our independent state.
I don’t want to hurt anyone,maybe some Indian people will be there but when i started interacting with Indian muslims and when i started watching Indian current affair programs, I swear i said thanks to Allah that we are independent. Only this i can say about this. And i am a Pakistani and i feel thankful that we are independent free muslim state.

Debakanta Sandha
Editors Note: this poor guy had very poor spellings, we had to correct even his malicious misspelling of Pakistan

Pakistani people may like to join back India but the political leaders will be deadly against of it. India is having maximum amount of money in Swiss bank at same time Pakistan is standing as second position. It is simple to understand. India is having natural resources like coal, iron, aluminium,petrolium,thorium,cupper, gold, heavy quantity of electricity, asia famous fertilisers, world famous textiles saling which political leaders lunder the money and fill their account. Same time Pakisthan is bringing money from China, USA etc to create the dispute on the name of bringing Kashmir and fill their accounts in Swiss. So, it is very clear that the leaders in Pakistan must not want to join back India.

 

Akshay Kasture
May be.
Because 2 years ago I saw a Pakistani talk show on Youtube where a so called expert was talking on same topic(merger of Pakistan in INDIA) according to him ::
Even if Pakistan tries somehow to merge into India ..India will not accept the merger because India aims to be not only Regional Power but also Super power .
India will not anyhow accept Pakistan because Pakistan is so much backword in each and every aspect …
Recently I saw whatsapp video where a Pakistani Leader was literally crying in their assembly and regretting
what they did in 60 years of Independence was nothing but Hatred .
And I saw many pakis regretting on social media platforms..
So..they may be unhappy with idea of Pakistan.

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A Call For Reason

A Call For Reason

 

K. Hussan Zia.

Bloody Partition of India BBC Picture The street was short and narrow. Lying like the garbage across the street and in its open gutters were bodies of the dead

 

It was very moving to read Editor Pakistan Think Tank’s account of what he appropriately describes as the holocaust that took place in East Punjab in 1947. Like him I too am a survivor of that terrible calamity and have still not gotten over the trauma brought on by what I witnessed. I was able to include some eyewitness accounts in a book that I published about the history of Muslims in India and how Pakistan came into being.

The sacrifice was enormous. It is not possible narrate everything here except that it was open season on Muslims everywhere in Indian Punjab. Things were allowed to go on for four months until there was not a single Muslim left. By most counts more than a million of them were massacred regardless of age or gender in unimaginably cruel ways. Some seven million or so were forced to leave everything behind and seek shelter in Pakistan. They lived only because there was Pakistan. 

The two things that stood out most was firstly the incredible generosity and sacrifice by the people already in Pakistan, nowhere more so than in Lahore. The city had a deserted look in those days. Virtually all the shops and businesses were closed and the streets empty. The only noticeable traffic consisted of lines of ‘rehras‘ (horse carts) laden with piles of baked chapattis streaming towards the refugee camp, day after day, all day long donated by the ever so generous and compassionate citizens of Lahore.

The other was the incredible resilience shown by the refugees. They did not waste much time nor did they wait for the govt. to provide for them. They went wherever they could find a place and got on with their lives as best as they could. Impelled by an indomitable spirit, they believed without question that Pakistan was going to survive and be a success. This is what made Pakistan and what has enabled her to overcome every set back in the past.

Sadly, we seem to be losing this spirit and giving way to despondancy and despair. Much of it is due to the media that do not have the national interest at heart and appear to have sold their souls. The succession of low grade leaders has not helped either. Many of them too are in the business for themselves; others are trying exploit public sentiment for their own purposes regardless of how much damage it is doing to the country as a whole.

They are screaming for change but have no coherent plan for what they will do once they are in power. The question we have to ask is what exactly is it that they want to change and precisely how they intend to bring it about? It is not good enough to say, ‘hand over the country to me and then I will show you’. The Devil lies in the detail.

A country can be likened to a tree. it is necessary to prune it and remove the dead wood from time to time to maintain its health. If you start to dig at its roots you run the risk of killing it. The point being that there is a right way and a wrong way and what is being done now, I fear, is not the right way. 

The ongoing shenanigans remind me of Ata Ullah Shah Bokhari and Allama Mashriqi, two fiery Muslim leaders who opposed to the Muslim League and Jinnah. They and their ilk would have brought nothing but unmitigated disaster had it not been for Mr. Jinnah, may Allah bless his soul. If there is to be change it has to be done right and under the right leadership otherwise we shall spend the rest of our lives repenting it. 
If there is any truth in the saying that nations get the leaders they deserve, we have to look at ourselves first. Sadly, we have not done nearly enough to justify the legacy bequeathed to us by Jinnah. There is a lot we can do at our personal and local levels that we are not doing. Cursing Nawaz Sharif and calling for his head is not going to solve anything and could easily land us in a far worse situation.
Level headed good sense and informed logic has to be the guiding principle and must prevail for there to be a better Pakistan. Just as important, each of us has to do his or her own part and the sooner we start the better. Uncalled for theatrics, tasteless invective, lawless politics and expedience at the expence of principles can only lead to instability which is highly dangerous given the existing geo-political environment.


   

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INDIAN ARMY: The Brutal Massacre of Tens of Thousands of Muslims By The Indian Army: Hyderabad 1948

Hyderabad 1948: India’s hidden massacre

By Mike ThomsonPresenter, Document, Radio 4

The  Jewel of The Nizams 'Falaknuma Palace' which was the former residence of Nizam Mehaboob Ali Khan in the old city area of Hyderabad

When India was partitioned in 1947, about 500,000 people died in communal rioting, mainly along the borders with Pakistan. But a year later another massacre occurred in central India, which until now has remained clouded in secrecy.

In September and October 1948, soon after independence from the British Empire, tens of thousands of people were brutally slaughtered in central India.

Some were lined up and shot by Indian Army soldiers. Yet a government-commissioned report into what happened was never published and few in India know about the massacre. Critics have accused successive Indian governments of continuing a cover-up.

The massacres took place a year after the violence of partition in what was then Hyderabad state, in the heart of India. It was one of 500 princely states that had enjoyed autonomy under British colonial rule.

When independence came in 1947 nearly all of these states agreed to become part of India.

Old map of India

But Hyderabad’s Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This refusal to surrender sovereignty to the new democratic India outraged the country’s leaders in New Delhi.

After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government finally lost patience.

Continue reading the main story

Find out more

The Charminar in central Hyderabad
  • Listen to Mike Thomson’s report on Document, The Hyderabad Massacre, on BBC Radio 4 at 16:00 BST on Tuesday 24 September or catch it later on the BBC iPlayer.

Historians say their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry.

Members of the powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad’s most powerful Muslim political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers.

This gave the Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army invaded Hyderabad.

In what was rather misleadingly known as a “police action”, the Nizam’s forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting and the mass murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion.

Determined to get to the bottom of what was happening, an alarmed Nehru commissioned a small mixed-faith team to go to Hyderabad to investigate.

It was led by a Hindu congressman, Pandit Sunderlal. But the resulting report that bore his name was never published.

Historian Sunil Purushotham from the University of Cambridge has now obtained a copy of the report as part of his research in this field.

A copy of the Sunderlal reportPandit Sunderlal’s team concluded that between 27,000 and 40,000 died

The Sunderlal team visited dozens of villages throughout the state.

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At a number of places members of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males… and massacred them”

Sunderlal report

At each one they carefully chronicled the accounts of Muslims who had survived the appalling violence: “We had absolutely unimpeachable evidence to the effect that there were instances in which men belonging to the Indian Army and also to the local police took part in looting and even other crimes.

“During our tour we gathered, at not a few places, that soldiers encouraged, persuaded and in a few cases even compelled the Hindu mob to loot Muslim shops and houses.”

The team reported that while Muslim villagers were disarmed by the Indian Army, Hindus were often left with their weapons. The mob violence that ensued was often led by Hindu paramilitary groups.

In other cases, it said, Indian soldiers themselves took an active hand in the butchery: “At a number of places members of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males from villages and towns and massacred them in cold blood.”

The investigation team also reported, however, that in many other instances the Indian Army had behaved well and protected Muslims.

The Nizam Mahbub Ali Khan and Party Posed with Tiger Skins at Shikar Camp, April–May 1899The Nizam of Hyderabad was a powerful prince. In this picture taken in 1899, the Nizam, Mahbub Ali Khan, and his party pose with tiger skins

The backlash was said to have been in response to many years of intimidation and violence against Hindus by the Razakars.

In confidential notes attached to the Sunderlal report, its authors detailed the gruesome nature of the Hindu revenge: “In many places we were shown wells still full of corpses that were rotting. In one such we counted 11 bodies, which included that of a woman with a small child sticking to her breast. “

And it went on: “We saw remnants of corpses lying in ditches. At several places the bodies had been burnt and we would see the charred bones and skulls still lying there.”

The Sunderlal report estimated that between 27,000 to 40,000 people lost their lives.

Indian Shiite Muslims take part in religious prayers at 'Ashoorkhana' in the Aza Khana Zehara in Hyderabad, on January 5, 2009. The structure, built by the seventh Nizam Mir Osman Ali Kahan to perpetuate the memory of his mother Amtul Zehra BegumA Shiite shrine built by the seventh Nizam to perpetuate his mother’s memory

No official explanation was given for Nehru’s decision not to publish the contents of the Sunderlal report, though it is likely that, in the powder-keg years that followed independence, news of what happened might have sparked more Muslim reprisals against Hindus.

It is also unclear why, all these decades later, there is still no reference to what happened in the nation’s schoolbooks. Even today few Indians have any idea what happened.

The Sunderlal report, although unknown to many, is now open for viewing at the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library in New Delhi.

There has been a call recently in the Indian press for it to be made more widely available, so the entire nation can learn what happened.

It could be argued this might risk igniting continuing tensions between Muslims and Hindus.

“Living as we are in this country with all our conflicts and problems, I wouldn’t make a big fuss over it,” says Burgula Narasingh Rao, a Hindu who lived through those times in Hyderabad and is now in his 80s.

“What happens, reaction and counter-reaction and various things will go on and on, but at the academic level, at the research level, at your broadcasting level, let these things come out. I have no problem with that.”

 

 

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STORY EXPOSED: INDIAN ARMY MASS SLAUGHTER OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS IN CENTRAL INDIA IN 1948

Hyderabad 1948: India’s hidden massacre

 

By Mike Thomson

Presenter, Document, Radio 4

 

The  Jewel of The Nizams 'Falaknuma Palace' which was the former residence of Nizam Mehaboob Ali Khan in the old city area of Hyderabad

When India was partitioned in 1947, about 500,000 people died in communal rioting, mainly along the borders with Pakistan. But a year later another massacre occurred in central India, which until now has remained clouded in secrecy.

In September and October 1948, soon after independence from the British Empire, tens of thousands of people were brutally slaughtered in central India.

Some were lined up and shot by Indian Army soldiers. Yet a government-commissioned report into what happened was never published and few in India know about the massacre. Critics have accused successive Indian governments of continuing a cover-up.

The massacres took place a year after the violence of partition in what was then Hyderabad state, in the heart of India. It was one of 500 princely states that had enjoyed autonomy under British colonial rule.

When independence came in 1947 nearly all of these states agreed to become part of India.

Old map of India

But Hyderabad’s Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This refusal to surrender sovereignty to the new democratic India outraged the country’s leaders in New Delhi.

After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government finally lost patience.

Continue reading the main story

Find out more

The Charminar in central Hyderabad
  • Listen to Mike Thomson’s report on Document, The Hyderabad Massacre, on BBC Radio 4 at 16:00 BST on Tuesday 24 September or catch it later on the BBC iPlayer.

Historians say their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry.

Members of the powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad’s most powerful Muslim political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers.

This gave the Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army invaded Hyderabad.

In what was rather misleadingly known as a “police action”, the Nizam’s forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting and the mass murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion.

Determined to get to the bottom of what was happening, an alarmed Nehru commissioned a small mixed-faith team to go to Hyderabad to investigate.

It was led by a Hindu congressman, Pandit Sunderlal. But the resulting report that bore his name was never published.

Historian Sunil Purushotham from the University of Cambridge has now obtained a copy of the report as part of his research in this field.

A copy of the Sunderlal reportPandit Sunderlal’s team concluded that between 27,000 and 40,000 died

The Sunderlal team visited dozens of villages throughout the state.

Continue reading the main story

“Start Quote

At a number of places members of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males… and massacred them”

Sunderlal report

At each one they carefully chronicled the accounts of Muslims who had survived the appalling violence: “We had absolutely unimpeachable evidence to the effect that there were instances in which men belonging to the Indian Army and also to the local police took part in looting and even other crimes.

“During our tour we gathered, at not a few places, that soldiers encouraged, persuaded and in a few cases even compelled the Hindu mob to loot Muslim shops and houses.”

The team reported that while Muslim villagers were disarmed by the Indian Army, Hindus were often left with their weapons. The mob violence that ensued was often led by Hindu paramilitary groups.

In other cases, it said, Indian soldiers themselves took an active hand in the butchery: “At a number of places members of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males from villages and towns and massacred them in cold blood.”

The investigation team also reported, however, that in many other instances the Indian Army had behaved well and protected Muslims.

The Nizam Mahbub Ali Khan and Party Posed with Tiger Skins at Shikar Camp, April–May 1899The Nizam of Hyderabad was a powerful prince. In this picture taken in 1899, the Nizam, Mahbub Ali Khan, and his party pose with tiger skins

The backlash was said to have been in response to many years of intimidation and violence against Hindus by the Razakars.

In confidential notes attached to the Sunderlal report, its authors detailed the gruesome nature of the Hindu revenge: “In many places we were shown wells still full of corpses that were rotting. In one such we counted 11 bodies, which included that of a woman with a small child sticking to her breast. “

And it went on: “We saw remnants of corpses lying in ditches. At several places the bodies had been burnt and we would see the charred bones and skulls still lying there.”

The Sunderlal report estimated that between 27,000 to 40,000 people lost their lives.

Indian Shiite Muslims take part in religious prayers at 'Ashoorkhana' in the Aza Khana Zehara in Hyderabad, on January 5, 2009. The structure, built by the seventh Nizam Mir Osman Ali Kahan to perpetuate the memory of his mother Amtul Zehra BegumA Shiite shrine built by the seventh Nizam to perpetuate his mother’s memory

No official explanation was given for Nehru’s decision not to publish the contents of the Sunderlal report, though it is likely that, in the powder-keg years that followed independence, news of what happened might have sparked more Muslim reprisals against Hindus.

It is also unclear why, all these decades later, there is still no reference to what happened in the nation’s schoolbooks. Even today few Indians have any idea what happened.

The Sunderlal report, although unknown to many, is now open for viewing at the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library in New Delhi.

There has been a call recently in the Indian press for it to be made more widely available, so the entire nation can learn what happened.

It could be argued this might risk igniting continuing tensions between Muslims and Hindus.

“Living as we are in this country with all our conflicts and problems, I wouldn’t make a big fuss over it,” says Burgula Narasingh Rao, a Hindu who lived through those times in Hyderabad and is now in his 80s.

“What happens, reaction and counter-reaction and various things will go on and on, but at the academic level, at the research level, at your broadcasting level, let these things come out. I have no problem with that.”

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